Anti-spin vs Long pips

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Steve Vaugier

Steve Vaugier Asked 12 years ago

Coach, Received your answer about how to hit with antispin. Thanks. However, to followup, unless my opponent looks at my blade will he/she be able to detect any discernable difference in the rubber; ie, is the antispin better as trying to cause confusion. Thanks again, Steve

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 12 years ago

Hi Steve,

The opponent should be able to tell if you are using anti-spin or normal rubber just by the reaction of the ball on the bat.

Long pimples are used more now because you can also generate a little bit of spin yourself with them which is more difficult with the anti-spin rubber.

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Ji-Soo Woo

Ji-Soo Woo Posted 12 years ago

As someone who has tried both LP and antispin on my BH, I think it is easier to deceive with antispin.  First, it is smooth like regular inverted, and in terms of sound and speed, it is generally closer to a regular inverted than LP is (of course depends on which rubber you choose and sponge thickness).  And at a local club level (below division 1), you'd be surprised how many players don't pick up on the fact you're using antispin even after a game or two.

On the other hand, while it is easier to deceive with antispin, the effect of the deception is much more marginal.  Because the performance of antispin can be closer to an inverted, it is easier to adjust to.  For example, when I used to use LP, almost no one could handle the LP punch shot.  This was because the speed of the ball was so much different from what they were exepcting from that stroke.  When I do the antispin punch, many players returned it without knowing I was using antispin!  The ball just landed closer to the net.

Jonas Falter

Jonas Falter Posted 6 years ago

I would say that using anti-spin without telling your opponent is cheating. Especially at lower levels, if your opponent doesn't think to check your rubbers you should show them and maybe even give them a quick explanation of how the rubber plays differently. 

Benzene Chiral

Benzene Chiral Posted 6 years ago

I personally feel it's your opponent's responsibility to check your rubber before play. It's not your obligation to tell him anything, and is therefore not cheating if you keep quiet.


D K Posted 6 years ago

I agree with Benzene.

I have several experiences that I was called a cheater because I refused to let my opponent to get used to my longpips before the match started.
However,as far as I know,there is no rule forcing a material user to wram-up or even tell his opponent about hsi rubber unless asked to show it.

I also agree with Ji-Soo.

I myself have tried antispin while testing bats and I am a longpips user.
I also countered several antispin and longpips players and i can tell antispin users are mostly able to generate stronger strokes than longpips users.
Not in all cases though.
I have seen a player using thick longpips rubber on an OFF+ blade and attacking with it very powerfully.
Though it could still be discovered he used longpips.

I can confirm that antispin strokes are closer to inverted strokes than longpips.
At least that counts for the antispins I have countered/tested.


Gary List

Gary List Posted 1 year ago

I don't believe you must show your opponent your bat, unless they ask to see it, in which case you can show them. My opponents ask what side is my antispin, etc etc. I tell or show them. Antispin for me offers fantastic control with enough magic to cause disruption, ability to defend but also attack as well. 

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