Backhand counter against chop

Table Tennis Strokes and Technique

Last updated 8 years ago

aishik das

aishik das Asked 8 years ago

I am very poor in this technique of playing a backhand against a chop.  Every time I  play the ball the ball goes out of the table or sticks to the net.  I tried many times to do it The consistency is we can say zero.  My opponents target that point.  I have to improve it.  Please  Help me out.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 8 years ago

Hi Aishik,

This is a stroke that will take time to develop.  Watch the lesson on the Backhand Topspin Off Backspin and take particular note of the start and finish positions of the stroke.

The stroke is a difficult one because you will get different amounts of backspin coming to you.  This will mean that your stroke needs to vary a little with each of these variations.  That is why it takes so long to learn.


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bertus bertus

bertus bertus Posted 8 years ago

Hi,

Don't you have enough time to pivot around the ball and hit the chopped ball with you FH-Topspin stroke?


Sammy Serea

Sammy Serea Posted 8 years ago

Hi there,

I also used to have some trouble with this shot (I still do, but it's gotten far better), and what proved to be key for me was the following - when I play topspin against topspin I brush the ball more and hit less, when I play topspin against backspin, I hit the ball more and brush less, in order to overcome the incoming spin.

It's still an upward and forward motion, but when playing against topspin the blade is more closed and the emphasis is on the upward movement, while against backspin the bat is a little less closed and the emphasis is more on the forward movement than on the upward movement.

Does that make any sense, Alois?

Thank you,
Sam


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 8 years ago

I would say against the backspin ball you need more brush and lifting to get the ball over the net.


Sammy Serea

Sammy Serea Posted 8 years ago

Yes, I just watched the video lesson and indeed, you kind of suggest the exact opposite of what I'm doing at the moment :P

Well, not quite the exact opposite - the one thing that we both agree on is that the bat face is more open, or less closed.

And the one thing that this influences - the one thing that is the same in both your approach as well as mine, is the contact point to the ball - the back of the ball, where as, in case of a shot against topspin you would target the upper side of the ball.

So, maybe that is the biggest deciding factor in whether or not the shot is successful - targeting the back of the ball, instead of its upper part.

Of course, from there, it is absolutely clear that the more you brush it (with that vertical motion), the more spin you will impart on the ball - I am 100% sure that Jeff's balls have a lot more action than mine do. Which bakes another question: what rubber is Jeff using on his backhand in this video?

Thank you very much,
Sam


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 8 years ago

It is probably Sriver but that doesn't matter too much.  He would do the same with most good quality rubbers.


Anthony Agpaoa

Anthony Agpaoa Posted 8 years ago

Wouldnt it be better to   have a simple  push  from backhand against a chop( specially if they chop with LP)  This would force the chopper to   come close to the table  and  increase odds of a pop up or an error. At the same time it's a higher percentage shot just to push  and disrupt the amount of spin so you can alternate topspin and backspin   to a long pips chopper to your backhand. After a few topspins to an LP  chopper, it becomes extremely hard to overcome the spin he adds to  your own  topspin balls. 
I'm a chopper and thats  the thing that  gives me the  most problems , in and out   from the table instead of side to side.



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