How many counterhits can you do?

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mat huang

mat huang Asked 7 years ago

Hi,

I'm just asking about around how many consective forehand counterhits and backhand counterhits could you do (Alois-Jeff)?

And also around how many should you expect for a state player - Under 13


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb Answered 7 years ago

Hi Mat,

Good question. I think Alois and I could do a few hundred pretty easily. I think a state under 13 player could also do a few hundred.

What is your record Mat?

And what about other PingSkillers? Leave a comment and let us know how many you can do?


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AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Posted 7 years ago

20 T-T... cant w8 to go back and practice some more :)


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

I remember in 1982 doing 10,000 in a row at a Camp with a player from Sydney.  It took a while...

Hopefully my memory has not exaggerated it too much!


mat huang

mat huang Posted 7 years ago

Well... Not that much. Lower than 100. Need more practise hehe


Abdullah Hadeed

Abdullah Hadeed Posted 7 years ago

I can go to maximum 250


Jonathan Huynh

Jonathan Huynh Posted 7 years ago

ah great, i want so badly to become a state player. oh well, gota start some where! :)

PS, by few hundred, do you mean 200-400?

PPS, are you, alois, going to the training vamp at MSAC on the 28th of december to the 30th?

PPPS, is any one in the pingskills membership in australia, vic, melbourne, epping, going to St Monica's. if you are, please leave email and be sure to enter in the TT team there. they say that they only need 4 good players so they can enter in comps outside.

BYE


Parakram Basnet

Parakram Basnet Posted 7 years ago

cant go more than 150, either he spoils or i. however i remember in a spin battle, we burned rubber with extreme looping.. i got 138 then, still fresh in my memory


Jonathan Huynh

Jonathan Huynh Posted 7 years ago

you BURNT your rubber?!


Michael McKendry

Michael McKendry Posted 7 years ago

My highest is 171, I did it with the local coach. Probably could have made 200, had somebody not hit their ball into our court.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Good work Michael.  Let me know when you reach 200.  I don't think it will take you too long.


sarthak gupta

sarthak gupta Posted 7 years ago

uh... i cant do HUNDREDS but even im a under 12 state player in India and i can do around like 70s or 80s


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

That is pretty good Sarthak.


sarthak gupta

sarthak gupta Posted 7 years ago

thanks alois!


Izzy H

Izzy H Posted 7 years ago

Well that really depends on with who I'm playing but I could do a few hundred..


Oliver

Oliver Posted 7 years ago

Wow Alois, you must have very good stamina and strength in the arm to endure 10,000! I get tired after about 100-200 and my average is probably around 150


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

I was younger...  Oh I remember the days...


Aasim Showkat

Aasim Showkat Posted 7 years ago

When i reach hundreds arm sucks....how can i increase it


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Try to relax your arm between shots.  The parts that are hurting are the parts that you need to relax during your stroke as well.


Aasim Showkat

Aasim Showkat Posted 7 years ago

How much time you took to reach over 20 thousand


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

I am not sure how long 10,000 took... just felt like a long time.  I would say over an hour.


David Nguyen

David Nguyen Posted 7 years ago

My counter-hit record is a modest 50. 10k is a lofty total, can't wait to be subconsciously competent with all the strokes baked into muscle memory.

Jeff, I've been looking for that app that does the counting for me and finally found a obscure little app called Fitnastica Lite.  It works pretty well when I place a phone above the elbow of the playing arm. I tried looking for a sound counter to do it but this accelerometer based is pretty much spot on.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Although counting to yourself or out loud also helps you with your timing and rhythm.


David Nguyen

David Nguyen Posted 7 years ago

Nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine is a mouthful. by the time I can say that number out loud at least five counter-hits would have taken place. Any counting tips Alois?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Yep... one to a thousand... 10 times... hopefully you can keep a track of how many thousands you are up to.


douglas harley

douglas harley Posted 7 years ago

one of my former coaches, richard bowling, and his buddy richard dewitt, set the "world's longest ping pong rally" in the guiness book of world's records back in 1984. apparently, they kept it going for over 10 hours...which sounds like a nightmare to me!  ;)  they are both quite good still, in the 2200-2300 rating-level in usa, not too far out of the top-100.

i think i could probably do an hour, if i was just trying to keep it on the table. but what's the point really?...you want to hit winners!  :)


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Nooooo, consistency is fun too.

That is a great record to have.  Your eyes would be going all over the place after 10 hours.


David Nguyen

David Nguyen Posted 7 years ago

after 150 loops in a row my arm is wasted. 10 hours of counter hitting would absolutely hurt wouldn't it? is something wrong with my technique if my shoulder, forearm and triceps sore the next day?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Hi David,

The one thing that I would recommend is to relax more through your stroke.  When looping a lot you will get sore but the more tension there is with the stroke the more soreness you will get the next day.

Players always find that they are more sore after a tournament than after hours and hour of training.  This is totally due to the extra tension in the muscles so the muscles are working harder to produce the stroke.


sarthak gupta

sarthak gupta Posted 7 years ago

hey alois can you judge my improvement in 2 years according to my counterhits?........ in the first year  it was around 35 and now its around 70


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Hi Sarthak,

I would work more on your consistency.  Try to get it over 200 hits if you can.  With a bit of training you will do this.


sarthak gupta

sarthak gupta Posted 7 years ago

oh.... ok!


Kaustubh Kulkarni

Kaustubh Kulkarni Posted 6 years ago

My best is:

Forehand counterhits:203

Backhand counterhits:172


Michael McKendry

Michael McKendry Posted 6 years ago

since my last comment, I have managed to reach 374 FH, and around 190 BH


Luke unknown

Luke unknown Posted 5 years ago

Me 420 FH and 300 BH


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

Well done guys.  Keep working.


Dieter Verhofstadt

Dieter Verhofstadt Posted 5 years ago

We call this "Swedish drills" at our club. I should try it more often.

Last time me and my sparring partner of that day  got to 100 FH hits (that was the goal) but could not get to 50 on the BH. Lately I have changed my BH stroke to have more elbow rotation and less forearm extension and it should be better now.


Ilia Minkin

Ilia Minkin Posted 5 years ago

I think it depends greatly on the tempo. I have never tried to do more than a few dozens actually.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

Give it a try Ilia.  It is a good test of concentration and technique.


utkarsh agarwal

utkarsh agarwal Posted 5 years ago

Unlimited ? tongue-outtongue-out


Kaustubh Kulkarni

Kaustubh Kulkarni Posted 5 years ago

Updating my best: Yesterday I did 203 backhand counterhits.


Jean Balthazar

Jean Balthazar Posted 5 years ago

I never tried to produce a record, but what I can say is that you cannot achieve it on your own. It takes a good partner with a steady shot. With beginners, 10 is already quite a achievement! ;o) But it's also a good challenge for you, to deal with inconsistent shots and try to shoot them back as consistently as possible.


D K

D K Posted 5 years ago

I have never tried a counterhit-counterhit exchanges,but in my club,we often train topspin-block exchanges.

We are always paired with the player that is near our own level.

Our best players can do about 80 loops in a row,depending on how skilled blocker their partner is. (we train a "countertopspin" more than blocking)

My personal record is about 5-7 loops in a row. I really dislike playing topspin so it can be caused by the fact I usually do not train this stroke voluntarily


maurice tate

maurice tate Posted 5 years ago

My coach told me a top 10 Australian player did thousands with no mistake.

Eventually the blocker said he had enough!


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

Hi Maurice,

That is very possible.  I think once you master the stroke it is just a matter of maintaining your concentration.



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