Kenta Matsudaira's Sidespin Block

I have voted :)

I would like to see the video.

I would like to see the video.

Yep, me too, please.  

Amazing video Jeff and Alois. The slow motion footage is great and helps me understand the shot easily. Definitely a very good weapon for every advanced player's arsenal of strokes. Thanks guys!

Hi Fidel,

I love the slow motion footage too!

Thanks Jeff Plumb for making the video, easy to understand

Is it possible to do the same block with forehand?

I guess it is.  Give it a try and see how it goes.

I  tend use that by accident a lot, very interesting

Thank for the video. Now I can do sidespin and backspin blocks effectively. I tried to do the same with forehand, but its quite difficult for me.

Hi, Alois. I believe this stroke also adds confusion of the opponent by sending the ball in a unexpected direction.

It does do that Eduardo.  Can be really effective but it is a difficult stroke to execute as well.

I know a man in my club that does that quite a lot with both f/h and b/h. He plays w/. pips and stuck to the table.

Please make the video , I vote Yes

It is already there.  Take a look above.

Thanks for the video coach! :D 

interesting, i shall try

All of us that have played for a while are familiar w/ this shot in some degree. Matsudaira does it in a professional level. It is a known fact that in a hard exchange over the table the ball can be answered more or less in the same direction that is coming. To change that trend as drastically as he does it you have to be really skilled.

Hi Alois

           Is jeff doing this shot using a normal rubber?

Yes, I was using Xiom Vega Pro.

Excellent demo Jeff, It's all in the wrist!

Thanks Roger!

Its so sad for me.

I can't do this amazing thing.

as im im using a Anti-spin rubber

Sir, Please give me a video tutorial for hammer brush serve

Hi Suvankar,

Unfortunately for you it is a Premium lesson.  However, you can sign up for even one month and you will be able to see it and all of the other Premium lessons.

Can these blocks be done with forehand?
Or a longpimpled backhand?

You can find Ma Long doing a "windmill block" on YouTube, which is basically the same on the forehand

Of course you can do it with LP? The contact is the same as for a normal chop

Im not too sure if u can do this block with LP and create your own sidespin...

Well yes, but you can still do the stroke :)

Johan:
Do you know about any video where he uses that forehand block?

Hendrik:I know that it will me more difficult to create my own sidespin with longpips.
But although hard it is still possible,as I can use my opponent's speed to make the brush quicker...
And if it will be unsuccessful,opponent can still think that there is a sidespin and miss the table...

https://youtu.be/Umtu6CEP2GQ

This is the vid I meant, DK

Thanks Johan
Oh....professional shot.
But I meant if the sidespin/backspin block is truly possible on the forehand side.
Ma Long,despite using hsi forehand,has used it on his backhand side

Just chop the ball like a tomahawk serve.. Kenta Matsudaira does it quite regularly, and I've seen it done by Zhang Jike and other people as well. It's just like a normal forehand chop but your bat is pointing more forward do you hit the ball at this angle: o/

And the Matsudaira backhand block in the video is easier to do on your forehand side. That's why Jeff has to side step even wider to the backhand to pull it off

Oh...that tomahawk...
OK,I will try it.
I want to master all strokes that are defensive.

Yea, just try it out and let us know if it works :P

WOW
I have tried this stroke today at the tournament and it seemed to work.
As my opponent always opened the bat and it bounced fast off his opened bat it looked as a heavy side/backspin.
But it had no curve.
Any idea why?

Because you use a funny rubber? Or because your bat was moving straight down when you struck the ball?

No I have done it with inverted rubber.

I tried to copy Jeff's movement.
Maybe the ball hit the bat in the different spot.

@ D K:

I would try to copy Kenta rather than Jeff. Why? Jeff was always doing "Kenta's: sidespin block down the line. Whereas Kenta block was more toward the middle line. Also, Kenta appeared to use more sidespin than Jeff.

I sense that Kenta's block would be more difficult to return than Jeff's since Jeff's return provide more space without the table interfering than Kenta's.

Also, Kenta was contacting the ball more to his right. One of his returns was virtually a backhand from his forehand.

I'm practicing Kenta's sidespin block by transforming it into a backhand serve. I'm finding as a serve the stroke requires heavy inside-out sidespin, low, moderately short, and just to the forehand side of the middle line. When I serve it down the line I've found the receiver has an easier time returning it with inside-out sidestop.

Maybe there are some subtle differences,but I am unable to see them.
My sight is very bad after all

@D K:

The free VLC video player will let you slow down the playback even of slow motion. I've found that I must repeatedly watch a stroke in slomo before I see all that's happening.

@Jeff and Alois:

What are the counters to Kenta's Sidespin block? Both defensive and offensive. Or...

What would Waldner do?

Hi Allen,

We use VLC a lot and find it really effective.

As far as how to counter the sidespin block, the offensive counter would be to make a topspin stroke.  You need to brush the ball heavily to get the ball spinning the way you want it to. Defensively you can chop it back, allowing for the sidespin in particular.

What would Waldner do?... whatever he wanted ... He may even do a sidespin push stroke or a sidespin topspin back.

I also use VLC but I do not know any way how to apply it on  avideo that is online

Haha,Waldner could also smash it if it would be high enough,right?

@D K's comment: "I also use VLC but I do not know any way how to apply it on  avideo that is online"

Screen capture programs are one way to create video files w/o download. Also programs like aTube Capture will download and save many videos.

The website alternativeto.net, this links to a search for alternatives to "atube capture".

I use Kazam to screen capture videos in Linux Mint and ZD Recorder in Windows. I use aTube Capture to DL videos in Windows. I have a Mac but don't use it for saving videos.

Finally, while I haven't found a way to save an online video in VLC, it will let you play them and use slow motion, at least in Linux VLC 2.1.6:

To play in VLC:

1 Use Menu: Media>Open Network Stream...

2 In dialog box paste the URL (like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zWyHqwufDw for Kenta's YT video)

3 Click the play button

4 Watch the video at different speeds depending upon the Menu: Playback>Speed settings

Trust this helps.

Ooh...this is too complicated for me :DDD
I am not so skilled in using so advanced programs

I am using it but very rarely & mine doesn't grip or sidespin much & i do it during backhand to backhand counter rally so the level is low but the thing is that during back to back counter rally whenever i do the kenta side (or a soft version) i do get most of the points