Long Pimple sponges

Table Tennis Equipment

Last updated 8 years ago

Sasha Savic

Sasha Savic Asked 8 years ago

Hi, Alois

Earlier we had a quality discussion about deception with LP, about effects of OX LP, etc. In your opinion, what do you think is better, in general: OX or thin sponge with LP. I have an option to purchase Spinlord Dornerglanz 0,6mm and there is a OX version. What do you think?

And, can LP with 0,6 mm sponge be deceptive? I tried with my LP with 1,5 mm, sometimes it worked. For instance, when someone pushes me backspin, I return with side spin, and people often go over the table with the ball. But, I don't get as much effect as I would like. I started to twiddle, and to make some backhand topspin, so, I want to have more effect with LP, because I have a good practice in twiddling. I hope you understand my question, and give me your idea about this. Thanks


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 8 years ago

Hi Sasha,

The 0.6 mm sponge may be a good compromise.  You will get more effect than with the 1.5mm and still get a bit of control because of the sponge.


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Sasha Savic

Sasha Savic Posted 8 years ago

Ok, thank you. But, before I do get the rubber, can you tell me what are advantages of playing with 1,5 mm sponge? Is there a way to benefit from that composition and what kind of benefit. I know that Joo Se Hyuk plays with that thickness, although, he is a great player

Regarding to Joo, I have a question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T98MJ3d1JkQ

In this video there a re two serve returns that Joo Se Hyuk does. One is at 2:51, and the other one is on 3:00. Can you tell me what does he do there, what kind of movement does he make, because I don't get it. Thanks


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 8 years ago

Hi Sasha,

Playing with 1.5mm will give you better control especially against really fast balls.

In the video this is just a push with the pimples.  He comes through forward to make it slightly faster.


Sasha Savic

Sasha Savic Posted 8 years ago

OK, I get that. But, is he pushing under the ball, or, better say, where is his contact point, and does he create his own spin, or is the ball flat.

Second thing, I have heard that most LP players use aggressive pushes in the corners. This is the reason I asked about 1,5 mm sponge. If I push aggressively backspin serve under the ball, like with inverted rubber, what comes back to my opponent, is it flat, or topspin ball. And also why I asked about the strategy with 1,5 mm sponge; if I cannot rely much on effects with that thickness, what can I do to improve my game. I know I am a little bit pushy, and I would gladly give you a free dental treatment, to shine your smile. Thank you


Sasha Savic

Sasha Savic Posted 8 years ago

And one more thing. I have seen some move with long pimples called side swipe. What is it, what are effects of it and when to apply it, it seems pretty useful, because opponents need good technique to return that swipe.


Ji-Soo Woo

Ji-Soo Woo Posted 8 years ago

Hey Sasha

check this video out.  It's a REALLY great and useful video with Chen Weixing demonstrating the side swipe.  He is really the main LP player I see who regularly uses the side swipe at the highest level of competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMSGj8_4xI

 

I watch this video regularly to work on the side swipe myself.

 


Sasha Savic

Sasha Savic Posted 8 years ago

Yes, well, this video is the reason I asked this question. I don't know what is it for, what do I get with it, and, most important, I don't exactly see what is he doing. He puts his blade at the starting position horizontal, but, what next. Does he move entire hand on the side, or just go with his wrist. It is a great video, I just need a little more explanation to understand this. I don't really do good with pushing under the ball, maybe this could be better for me.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 8 years ago

Sometimes he just goes straight through with a flat bat and sometimes herelaxes his wrist and comes you and across the ball..  If you were using inverted rubber this stroke would be like returning a short topspin serve with a flat flick or jab.


Sasha Savic

Sasha Savic Posted 8 years ago

I would like to know is there a difference between hitting with LP and inverted rubber. I know that LP cannot make spin, but, I want to improve this, because, when I hit the ball, it goes over the table. But, if I get it right, it can be tricky for my opponents


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 8 years ago

There is a difference.  It is easier to hit with the long pimples against a backspin ball.

We have a lesson on LP Attack Against Backspin.



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