Problems playing topspin against backspin

Table Tennis Strokes and Technique

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viren kanani

viren kanani Asked 1 year ago

Whenever i try to topspin the backspin it would rather go out of the table or go in to the net. Help me . As far as i know my movements are slow but how to improve it. And any other measures to be taken care of? pls advise .


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 1 year ago

Hi Viren,

This can be a difficult stroke to learn.  Increasing speed is a matter of trusting the movement of the stroke and getting your arm to move faster through the stroke.  At first you will have to forget about trying to get the ball on the table and just think about getting the arm to move faster.  Also make sure you are getting a good brushing contact on the ball to get the lift.  Also make sure your rubber has some grip to be able to lift the ball.

Take a look through the tutorial on Forehand Topspin Off Backspin.

 


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viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 10 months ago

first i use to play with a kind of ready made racket and now i have updated my racket . i use to bring the speed using the force from ply but with the use of new racket i am facing problem placing top spin on the table .


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 10 months ago

It sounds like the bat is good so now focus on the brushing contact. You will need to brush finer than with your previous bat because of the increased speed. 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 10 months ago

I have ordered a rubber of tibhar mxp which carbon as well as all wood ply you suggest with it . ? 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 10 months ago

Suggest good Carbon ply and all wood ply . 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 10 months ago

I don’t have any particular suggestions of blades. Others may want to add their thoughts. 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 10 months ago

How is butterfly jonyer h fl ? For improving control ?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 10 months ago

I like those blades for control. 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 8 months ago

If i smash a ball and the opponent chops the ball. The ball returns with a height . And i smash it again . My ball goes in to net or out of the table . Wether i should smash it again ?? Or return with a chop. ?? Topspin will be a difficult shot as the return is having a bounce . Or i should try topspin ?? 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 8 months ago

And which shot should i play and how should i play it ?? Any instructions or videos ?? 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 8 months ago

Hi Viren,

The best would be to topspin the ball because it will usually have a lot of backspin. You will need to still lift the back even though it is high because the backspin will drag the back into the net.  We do have a tutorial on it for our Premium members Playing against a high backspin ball


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 8 months ago

Do wall practise helps in improving backhand and what should i do to play good backhand drive and topspin ? 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 7 months ago

I am having problems in playing backhand loop and top spin .. they are going in to the net . Any hint that may help me improve in it ?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 months ago

Hi Viren,

Wall practice can help if you don't have any other options.  The principles for the backhand topspin are the same as for the forehand.  You need to make sure you are getting the start and finish positions correct and then also getting that brushing contact.  It sounds like you will now have good equipment so that won't be the issue.

If they are often going into the net think about making sure that you are focusing on a higher finish position to lift the ball.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 6 months ago

I want to ask on .. how should one hold a blade while playing a topspin in a deep chop. And while playing topspin on a ball on the table . 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 6 months ago

I mean how tight . Should be the grip be loose or tightly . In both the case . Deep chop coming outside  the table and chops remaining inside the table .


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 6 months ago

Hi Viren,

In general I like a loose grip which allows you to utilise your wrist and arm through the stroke.  You will find that as soon as you tighten your fingers the rest of your arm and even your shoulder will start to tighten as well.

Often players like to think about tightening the grip a little on impact for a strong shot.  You can try this for your self and see how that feels.  For the push or caps though a relaxed grip will be best.


D K

D K Posted 6 months ago

In my opinion,the grip should be loose,but not too loose-you must not press the bat,but you must apply enough force so that the incoming ball's power does not affect the direction of the bat and also so that you do not release the bat.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 6 months ago

I want to ask on .. how should one hold a blade while playing a topspin in a deep chop. And while playing topspin on a ball on the table . 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 6 months ago

In general, a loose grip still applies.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 6 months ago

I am able to lift and topspin backspin balls but i am not able to place it . Like from forehand ti backhand corner or from backhand to backhand . Any hint which will help me in making that possible ? 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 6 months ago

Hi Viren,

Often this will be due to your grip and then you wrist position.  If you can think about having more of a "Forehand grip" this will help.  That means turning the bat in your hand so that the bat rests more on your thumb than your forefinger.  Then also relax the grip on the bat to allow your fingers to relax which will then also allow your wrist to be flexible.  This relaxation will allow you to open up the wrist to be able to angle the ball to go down tot he backhand corner.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 6 months ago

https://images.app.goo.gl/nWt1htkJwuKcRHdc6

 

 

is this forehand grip one  backhand grip one should keep. 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 6 months ago

Hi Viren,

Yes the Forehand grip demonstrated there is what I am talking about.  Often players will have it more int eh backhand grip position and from there it is really difficult to place the ball down the line.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 6 months ago

So forehand grip is what you suggest while playing a top spin . 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 6 months ago

A little more towards a forehand than backhand in general play which will allow more wrist flexibility especially when you want to play down the line.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 6 months ago

Is there any video which will help me to improve my grip or any image to learn how exactly my grip should be ? 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 6 months ago

Hi Viren,

Take a look at this tutorial. The Role of the Fingers in the Shakehand Grip.  I think this will help you.

 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 1 month ago

which thickness is more suitable for beginers ? 1.8 ? 1.6 . rubber yasaka mark v . 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 1 month ago

1.5* sorry . 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 1 month ago

Hi Viren,

1.8 is ok for beginners. 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 1 month ago

any advice on how to play long topspin. which lands on white stripe or on the sides . 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 1 month ago

Hi Viren,

The first thing in training is to not worry if you it the ball off the end or side of the table.  This will allow you to find the range of the end and side of the table.

Then focus on the landing spot as you train.  The more you do this the more you will adjust your stroke naturally to get the length and width that you are looking for.

The better players are aiming for a smaller margin in a match.  As you progress the area you can aim for in a match starts to decrease from aiming to hit the ball anywhere on the table to starting to thing about hitting white lines.


Nigel C

Nigel C Posted 1 month ago

Alois, what about using small objects as targets in a practise game. Place a few either end on the white lines, get a point everytime you hit one, first to 5 wins.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 1 month ago

Yes that is good as you develop. Initially allow the freedom to play long or wide. 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 1 month ago

is it advisable to use new ply with new rubber ? 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 1 month ago

Yes you can doo that but it depends on the speed and quality of both of these.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 1 month ago

i am using yasaka sweden extra ply currently can i use donic coppa ( new rubbber ) with this blade .


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 1 month ago

Hi Viren,

Yes that would be suitable.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 3 weeks ago

and donic coppa with yasaka falck w7 ? 

how you suggest to play with  weak backhand ...i mean near to average . i am weak with drives and top spin may be because of my grip or lacking proper coaching or practise ... but what do you suggest ?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 3 weeks ago

Hi Viren,

The same applies.  Work on the stroke with your Backhand.  Here is the tutorial link for the Backhand Topspin Off Backspin

Or you can work on moving around an using your forehand more even on the backhand side but I would think working o your Backhand is the better option.

 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 3 weeks ago

How to return a long spinny serve ? 

I usually do a pendulum serve and i receive a heavy chop at my backhand side and i try to turn and play a forehand topspin  and its difficult for me to topspin it . How should i do it ? Should i play on the straight line or on the backhand side of the opponent . ?? 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 3 weeks ago

Hi Viren,

Your direction depends on your opponent and what is your best option to make it difficult for them.

You can also think about developing your backhand topspin as an option. 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 2 weeks ago

i have ordered yasaka falck w7 ply. how is that blade according to you ? and which rubber is more suitable with this ply ? 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 2 weeks ago

Hi Viern,

It is a good quality blade. I would recommend Rakza 7 rubber.


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 1 week ago

What role does sponge play in a racket . Soft and hard . One is with small dots and soft and another is flat and hard . 


viren kanani

viren kanani Posted 1 week ago


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 1 week ago

Hi Viren,

The sponge effects the speed and spin of the racket.  However, I think it is important to not place so much focus on your equipment and think more about your training and technique.  That will make much more difference to your overall ability.



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