Shadowplay with a heavy racket

Table Tennis Training and Drills

Last updated 7 years ago

Ilia Minkin

Ilia Minkin Asked 7 years ago

In a recent "Ask a pro anything" Joo Saehyuk mentioned that he used to swing with a heavy (1kg) racket. What do you think about this kind of practice? Would amateurs benefit from it and what is the best way to do it?

I started using an improvised heavy racket for shadowplay (around 400gr) and it seems that now I can get more power. But I am not sure if it is good for the long run.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 7 years ago

Hi Ilia,

I am not a big fan.  You are developing a different swing and working against gravity rather than working to swing the bat forward.


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Gabriel Orozco

Gabriel Orozco Posted 7 years ago

This reminds me about a few years ago when I was learning strokes, mainly the forehand stroke. My coach had an old paddle blade, taped with a bunch of metals for weight, and he told me to grab it and practice the strokes for as long as you can. What I notice is, obviously, it tires pretty quickly, but it only really works for strengthening your arms instead of perfecting a technique. As Alois says, it does kind of mess up your technique since once you feel "accustomed," I guess you can say, when you start using your actual racket, it will feel so different, and the stroke is different from the heavier blade. I'd recommend using dumbbells if you really want to strengthen your arms, and practicing your stokes without anything but your own racket, especially if you're an amateur, you cannot go back and forth with different equipment.


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

Illia,you have just stolen that question directly from my mind :))

 

Alois-different swing?
How do you mean?


Ilia Minkin

Ilia Minkin Posted 7 years ago

Yes it is true it leads to a different swing, but somehow it feels like this swing is even better for table tennis as I can generate more racket speed with it. That could be a delusion, though.


Ilia Minkin

Ilia Minkin Posted 7 years ago

DK,

The difference in the swing comes from the fact that when you relax you forearm on the backswing, the extra weight in the racket aggressively pushes the racket down and back, changing the synchronization between the arm and upper body. 


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

Hmm..though,this is for a loop.
A stroke that less or more fights the gravity and goes under a certaing angle to the gravity.

Would it,though,be the same for a chop,which uses the gravity and travels directly with and directly against the gravity?


Ilia Minkin

Ilia Minkin Posted 7 years ago

I think for chop it has even more effect. As I said, Joo Saehyuk said that he used to practice it with a 1kg racket, here at 4:10.


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

I know,I have seen the Ask the pro anything.

I am just sad that Matsushita has never go into this.
And also I am sad that I do not know how and when send questions to the particular person in that show.

Alois,what do you think about training a chop with and overweight bat?


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

(has never gone...seems like my English is getting bad when I am nervous)


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Nota big fan of training with a heavy bat.  It is working your arm and swing against gravity whereas when swinging you are working to accelerate the bat on a vertical plane.


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

THough,i am maybe stupid,but I do not understand if there is any positive difference while training a chop.
As it is a vertical stroke.



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