Equipment
After some backhand topspins into the net my training-partner recently mentioned that my rubber seems to have a low throw angle. Now I´m wondering whether something's wrong with my equipment. Could you please explain what the throw-angle is and what impact it has? Thanks
Hi Manfred,
The throw angle is how much angle the ball will lift or spin off your racket. A low throw angle means the ball will tend to come straight out rather than lifting up when you do a topspin stroke for example.
There is nothing wrong with that, it is just a preference that some players have.
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Manfred Rolfsmeier Posted 8 years ago
Thanks Alois - one more question:
Do it understand it right that with a low throw angle the ball doen´t curve that much? I have the feeling that with this flatter curve it´s easier to block and counter but harder to play topspins - at least for me.
Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 8 years ago
Yes that is correct Manfred.
D K Posted 8 years ago
So the throw angle is the angle of the bounce of the ball off the bat while playing a loop?
I would say I like a very low throw,as my blade is said to have a very low throw and I really love playing the ball extremely low,extremely slow and extremely spinny.
Jean Balthazar Posted 8 years ago
If you play the exact same stroke against the exact same incoming ball, a racket whit a high throw will propell the ball higher than a racket with a low throw. You can use both for any type of play if you adjust your strockes accordingly, but in general, a blocker will prefer a low throw setup, and a top spin attacker will prefer a high throw setup.
I never believed too much in this "throw angle" thing, until I switched from a Xiom Vega Pro rubber on a Butterfly Maze T-tec all+ blade to the exact same rubber on a Dr Neubauer Bulldog blade. All my forhand topspins landed in the net with the secon setup. I could adjust a bit, but not enough, and even hurt myself trying to put more speed in my stroke to compensate. So I switched back to the previous blade and everything came back to normal. Conversely, the second sertup was much easier for blocking, but not enough to compenseate the topspin degradation (it was much less fun playing, too). I'm not saying that you need to test a hundred blades and rubbers until you find something that suits your strokes exactly as they are. You can adjust. But if you're mostly blocking, or mostly topspinning, it's worth seecking information about the throw angle of the equipment you want to buy to not end up with something that favoures an opposite style. Like you wouldn't normally buy an OFF++ racket if you're mainly defending, or a very slow blade with long pimples if you're mostly attacking.
Mike Deubig Posted 8 years ago
I play with two blades which are two different "throw angles". One is low and the other is medium to medium-high. There are three noticeable differences for my style of play. One is the distance from the table. My blade with the low throw is not that easy to topspin away from the table. The other blade which has the higher throw is easier. The other noticeable difference is the fact that you need a better technique with the low throw. The third difference is power, the one with the higher throw has less power than the one with the lower throw. I like playing with both. If I play doubles, for example, I normally don't play as close to the table as I do in singles so I use my blade with the higher throw. Whatever you feel comfortable with, go with that! :)
D K Posted 8 years ago
Being a chopper,keeping the ball low and spinny is far more important to me than having a powerful bomb.
D K Posted 8 years ago
So I am happy with my low-throw blade.
I do not know the throw of my rubbers though.
Imre Gorog Posted 7 years ago
The rubber specifikation (see tabletennisdb.com) contain the throw angle but not the
blade specifikation ! How can you decide about this feature at the blades ???
From hearsay rumour or from common gossip that comes from the players ??
Ha ha ....
Common gossip is not evidence !
You can not buy all the blades testing them .
And what is more important : THE BLADE WITH THE RUBBER is a complete system to decide
about your equipment's throw angle .
The question once more : what about the blade's throw angle ??
It would be exist a measure method to determine it .
Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago
Hi Imre,
It is always difficult to choose equipment that is why we don't spend too much time on it.
The rubber is the most important part of the throw angle. With a slower blade the throw angle will tend to be higher because it is coming out of the rubber slower.
Imre Gorog Posted 7 years ago
Dear Alois !
Thanks for your quick answer !
It is logical what you wrote to me .
With a slower blade the throw angle will tend to be higher because it is coming out of the rubber slower.
I have two blades a Photino
http://www.tabletennisdb.com/blade/butterfly-photino.html
and a
Tibhar H-3-9 ( but mine is a sample modell with short run : with carbon layer )
not this : http://www.tabletennisdb.com/blade/tibhar-h-3-9.html (it is without carbon ! )
I'd like to change my rubbers because the average touches at a point became very few ( ca. 4 !!)
Rallies happen not often . The importance of who is better "over the table" that is : in short game
became immense ! The rubbers are ok if you win the point with your serve or with your first touch
or with 3 or 4 ball attack . When you land in a rally too often you do something not perfect .
Thats the why I want rubbers for short game .
Rubbers with low throw angel can partly solve this problem :
Tenergy 25 and Andro Rasant grip are suitable rubbers near to the table .
And the tacky rubbers are not bad as well !
I found a not too hard but hard enough(for an europian player) and tacky DHS rubber :
/throw angle : is not too high /
DHS NEO Skyline 2 TG2
http://www.tabletennisdb.com/rubber/dhs-neo-skyline-2-tg2.html