Strokes and Technique
Is it a bad habit to come up with my own strokes especially for a sidespin? I saw your video on sidespin and I thought it was too hard for me to do, so I changed the stroke up a bit and still came up with a decent sidespin. Do I have to do it exactly like you or can I make it my own?
Hi Esteban,
If it is working consistently for you then it is probably OK.
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DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
The sidespin stroke. You know Jan Ove Waldner? His sidespin stroke was like a stab on the side of the ball. I saw him do it in a video of his 1987ish match. I found this easier to control than doing a hook.
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
Ok. You hold it shakehand grip. Hold the bat so it's flat perpendicular to the table's surface. Imagine that your bat is like the wall. As the ball comes toward you, simply brush the side as if your trying to punch the ball. It's almost like a topspin stroke but with a little sidespin variation to it.
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
that stroke is for the counterclockwise sidespin. For the clockwise sidespin, you reverse the previously mentioned sidespin technique. Do it as if you're taking back that punch. When I do it, however, sometimes have to spike the ball in order to generate good sidepin and sometimes I don't it's just a matter of good consistency. But as Alois mentioned in his sidespin video, the sidespin stroke lacks consistency. I thought he meant it with his hook sidepin stroke technique. But apparently, the power of my sidespin also lacks consistency. I think it's just best to practice the stroke with a good practice partner who knows how to return sidespins back to you cleanly just so you can develop the sidespin more effectively.
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
But if you get the chance, you should youtube the video. search for the username MurrayfieldTTC and search the videos in that channel. You'll Eventually come across some old videos from the 1987 match from Waldner. If you watch those videos (especially Waldner's match against Li Gun Sang, the backspin chopper), you'll catch on some very familiar strokes (that pingskills showed in the videos) from both players as well as the sidespin I mentioned.
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
You're welcome :)
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
when the ball spins leftward, I call it counterclockwise. When it spins rightward, I call it clockwise.
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
I agree with you it is a very risky shot. The reason being is that when the opponent hits the ball, the sidespin will cause the ball to naturally hit the opposite end of the table. If the opponent returns the ball, it will be uncertain where the ball will kick off the table. Besides that, the sidespin stroke in itself is hard to do.
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
I would only apply sidespin for the purpose of variation-maybe in points where the opponent wouldn't expect it. But that's it, I probably shouldn't do the sidespin stroke all the time in a match.
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
And about the sidespin serve, I'd say it's important to make it quick and short, but with a fine contact. This way, the opponent will have less reaction time and the shortness of the serve will add pressure to your opponent, forcing him to flick. In addition to that, faking the serve would really make a difference. Though all this is way easier said than done.
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Jeff Plumb from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago
Frendy,
The key is disguise. If your opponent knows it is a short sidespin serve, they will be able to flick it. Backspin is definitely a safer serve.
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
Frendy,
Again, I saw Jan Ove Waldner do a long Backspin serve in that video and it was effective considering Li Gun Sang didn't see it coming. Another thing I noticed was that his backspin serve looked similar to his sidespin serve. As Jeff said earlier-the key is disguise.
Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago
A long backspin serve can be good as a surprise. Waldner does it because of his extremely strong defense and blocking. He knows that they can't topspin through him. Where you have to be careful is if they have a strong topspin and can put you on the defensive.
DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
I also wanted to ask about the topspin. Is there a certain level of topspin where it's so strong that you have to defend? Or is it possible to keep rallying the topspin with another topspin regardless of strength? If so, how should I learn it? Will it come naturally to me over time or should I follow on a specific drill? Thanks in advance.
Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago
Hi Esteban,
If you are in good position then you can topspin any topspin back.
The main thing is to start slowly and build up. Work on topspin against a slower ball and then as you practice more and your footwork gets better you will be able to cope with stronger topspins.
Esteban Mendez Posted 11 years ago
And is it also good to look back at the fundamentals of the forehand stroke and work from there?
Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago
Yes it is. All of the strokes really build on each other.