My Service :)

Serving

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira
AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Asked 12 years ago

Good Day Coach :)


these are my serves that i use in my games
can i get some tips and/or suggestions on how i can improve it even more sorry for the bad
camera angle


FH/BH Tomahawk Serve Variations:
http://youtu.be/tfTptEXTb18

Reverse Pendelum Serve:
http://youtu.be/gYuH9xxAloY

Malin Serve:
http://youtu.be/ZlHhgQsivdM

and also I've been trying to add Fukuoka Serve:
http://youtu.be/67S5Er0w7hg (not me)

I havent figured out how she does her fast break, topspin, and heavy chop. i've got the chop and sidespin down

Current Set up:
FH: Andro 500 Pro
BH: Mark V Hps
B: Butterfly Lejumu

i want to improve it even more :)

thx coach :)


Jeff Plumb
Jeff Plumb Answered 12 years ago

Hi AmekunRaiane,

Nice work with the Tomahawk serve. You are starting to get some good curl on the serve. I think you can improve this serve even more by working on your placement. Take a look at our video on Serve Placement. A lot of your serves are going right into the "danger zone". Work on getting the serve to bounce twice on your opponents side of the table. To do this you might need to brush the ball a bit finer to still get plenty of spin and to keep the ball short. We recommend around 80% of your serves should be short. For the long serves make sure they are deep and wide. 

The way you are practicing the serves is good too. You can serve a lot of serves in a short period of time this way. Sometimes though you should slow you practice down. Not all the time but sometimes. For each serve really think about the placement as if you were in a match. Then serve the ball. Then take some time to think about your next serve. This just makes your practice more match like.

The reverse pendulum is coming along nicely too. Again I have the same advice. Try to work on getting more control on the serve so you can make the ball bounce twice on your opponent's side of the table. This becomes important as you play better and better players as they will attack anything that is long.

I really like the look of your Ma Lin serve! You are getting good spin and keeping the ball short. In a real game though I wouldn't worry about getting the ball to spin back into the net. I'd try to still keep the ball short but make it a bit lower over the net. You could practice this serve using the tips from our Keeping The Ball Low video. Keep practicing this serve and see if you can improve your consistency a little. It could become a very good serve for you. I think if you mix up a heavy backspin serve with a similar serve with less backspin, you'll cause your opponent some troubles.

Fukuoka does have a unique serve. It doesn't seem to have caught on though. For the moment I'd stick with your other serves and try to work on getting them shorter but still with plenty of spin.

Keep up the good work!


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AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Posted 12 years ago

yay jeff answered my question :D
thx :) d(^^,)

 

regarding finer, by finer what do u mean by it?

is it to really brush the ball so that it would slow down but still contain plenty of spin and keep it short?

im sorry about it i still havent grasp the full concept of the service

can i ask for tips in making my tomahawk service short? ive been noticing that people can loop it easily, i tried making it short but they end up slow and bounce high

Thx again for answering my question :)

 


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills Posted 12 years ago

Yes, by finer I mean that you still swing the bat as fast but you hit less of the ball. The bat should just brush the outside Of the ball. By getting a finer contact you will get less forward momentum on your serve and it will be easier to keep the ball short.

Also try following our keeping the ball low video that I mentioned above. This will help you learn to keep the ball low and short. If you can keep your tomahawk serve low it will become more effective. 


AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Posted 12 years ago

i c :) alryt ill try to practice it ryt away

more speed less hit

thx jeff :)


SirLoops Alot

SirLoops Alot Posted 12 years ago

Looks good. Also make sure you keep your free hand/arm out of the way on your reverse pendulum.

 

 


AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Posted 12 years ago

Hello again Pingskills team

can u check out my game

this is how i usually play my games

sry for bad camera angle

thx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBL9H6DOtas

 


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills Posted 12 years ago

Hi AmekunRaiane,

That looks pretty good. Some areas I would work on are to try and get a few more serves shorter on the table. And then with your attack, I'd work on getting a bit more of a brushing contact so you can generate more topspin. This will make your topspin a bit more consistent. I'd also work on your backhand block. See if during practice you can get someone to loop to your backhand and see how many blocks you can make in a row. Later down the track you can also look at working on your backhand topspin.

Keep up the good work!


AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Posted 12 years ago

thx for a quick reply

yeah i dont have a bh block yet cuz i mainly rely on the forehand block its a bad habit of mine

ill re visit your topspin video thx jeff

more power pingskills :)


Alvin Samson

Alvin Samson Posted 12 years ago

how do you see the videos?


AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Posted 12 years ago

copy the link and paste it and hit enter

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBL9H6DOtas

 


Alvin Samson

Alvin Samson Posted 12 years ago

THanks!


AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira

AmekunRaiane Rivadeneira Posted 11 years ago

Gud Day Everyone

wow time sure does fly fast

i thought i was only playing table tennis for 5 mins and it was actually 1 year

i made a variety of changes in my serve



its mostly Based on this other than the BH Serve, its sorta a combination of a pendelum and a reverse one which requires quick hand and wrist work for a full and fast followthrough of a serve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSy2hmtPKU

this is sorta my own version of his serve:
Pendelum Chop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElkpRTxwwiI&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=12

Reverse Pendelum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPtyhtpbrWg&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=13

Pendelum Side Top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_X1mwyjCPY&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=14

Reverse Pendelum Side Top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xri7Z4cI9K8&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=15

Pendelum Top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mo9SkXt_XY&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=16



BH Serves:

Right Side Spin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvxG0t0n27Q&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=17

Chop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR0D7T-IsNI&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=18

Side Chop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk3HBqfEPNU&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=19

Side Top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9XwHv1tvgs&list=PLa9q3FaM_87i90wVBm7u0cOmHvZ5Zgz7L&index=20



and my current game, its not the latest one

Against a Flat Driver:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmXyKE1liYk&list=PLa9q3FaM_87h9xVUTK2T3VQZ_mTsXCemO&index=21



Against a Strategy Placement Player:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIsxCCjso5k&list=PLa9q3FaM_87h9xVUTK2T3VQZ_mTsXCemO&index=15



Against the younger generation:

Boy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26IyqB9s4HQ&list=PLa9q3FaM_87h9xVUTK2T3VQZ_mTsXCemO

Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvoJkTylUaY&list=PLa9q3FaM_87h9xVUTK2T3VQZ_mTsXCemO&index=16



most of the services are 2 mins each :)

it would be awesome if you can tell what kind of player am i , even im not sure , but i am curious to whether i am a chopper, fisher , blocker, all around, etc.

these are my usual serves in the game

it would be awesome if you can give me advice and tips on how to improve it even more, i would also like to know my flaws

thank you Everyone :)


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