Question on the racquet and rubber

Table Tennis Equipment

Last updated 5 years ago

Devanathan Ramamurthy

Devanathan Ramamurthy Asked 5 years ago


I currently use Butterfly Wakaba 3000 pre made raq for about 6 months now and due to its stiff rubbers, its layer has lost the sweet spot and I couldn't generate spin. In fact it doesn't spin at all. The loops are not effective and the close to net touches aren't tossing to the other side. I couldn't develop anything with this. But I play well while using a GKI dragon raq. What I think is, I am good with a racquet when it has a bit of firmness where I hold the bat. Wakaba 3000 rubbers are so flat and weightless and the blade has no weight too... though I like this blade.

Now, I have a thought in my mind. not sure how good it is. Can I use a Yasaka Mark V rubbers (both Red and Black) on the Butterfly Wakaba 3000. So that the rubbers little weight could add a good strength to my game. Do you think this would work out? Please advice on this.

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 5 years ago

Hi Devanathan,

You can change the rubber on the Wakaba and put on Mark V.  It will work quite well.

You could also get a whole new setup by getting a new blade.  We have the PingSkills Touch with Mark V or you could try something similar as well.

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Nicolas Matthew

Nicolas Matthew Posted 5 years ago

I used to do that also. I think if you want to buy Mark V rubber sheets I think you also should invest in a more decent blade. The best I could find is butterfly primorac but if you feel its too expensive, tibhar blade is cheap but great. I used to glue a sriver on my nittaku tokyo. It was quite a disaster..

Nagaraj Hegde

Nagaraj Hegde Posted 5 years ago

i'm using mark V on both sides myself, with joola falcon fast blade, at quite a reasonable price, it works just fine. 

rishabh singh

rishabh singh Posted 5 years ago

Hi , I want to ask that which rubber is best for forehand butterfly tenergy 05 or tenergy 64.

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

Hi Rishabh,

I think the 05 is a better rubber in general.  Most top players use it in preference.

Sidney Haubrick

Sidney Haubrick Posted 5 years ago

Hi there,

Need help finding the MOST SPINNY rubber to play BACK SPIN defense game, close to the table. Very Spinny on serves of course.

To help you to help me, I will inform you how I usually play...

I play really close to the table, I am 6.3 tall and dont have a good drive (top spin), it is too difficult for me to bent and do the proper movement, I am a bit too slow too.

My style of game is much more defensive and forcing the opponent to make errors, I truly love playing BACKSPIN and more BACKSPIN and counter attack on the opponents attack with my very hard and dry SMASH ATACK :D

I am not on the professional level, but play quite well, I am used play with old Chinese hard and very tacky rubbers like Firendship...

but now I want to change and try THE SPINNIEST RUBBER POSSIBLE... VERY VERY SPINNY rubber, I am crazy reading all about.... there are sooooo many videos with comments, some seems to be very commercial to me trying to sell their brand, I trust much more on you guys.

Has anyone heard about NO BRAND 999 rubber? What about it.

Does anyone think Tenergy 05 or tenergy 25 could do well for me, compared to DHS Hurricane 03 NEO, or Andro Rasant Power grip, or even DONIC ACUDA Blue P2????

What are the rubbers you recommend me the most, not too fast but THE MOST SPIN.
Ahhh I play with only one side of the racket.... I don care about price, of course it if is more durable better... I have got a very good sidespin serve, but will follow your guidance to improve it.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

A thin Tenergy perhaps.  Anyone else have thoughts?

Arjan van Luttikhuizen

Arjan van Luttikhuizen Posted 5 years ago

Hey Sidney, you play penhold right? You mention a bunch of non-tacky rubbers but you may want to keep using a tacky rubber so I'm going to give you some suggestions for both tacky and non-tacky rubbers that I think might suit your style.

If you are playing close to the table defense with a lot of backspin you might want to look for something with more control and less speed. Because rubbers that are very spinny are also more sensitive to incoming spin! And if your rubber is fast on top of being spinny you'll have much more trouble with your opponent's service and spin attacks.

I would not go for the T05, H3, Rasant Powergrip or Acuda Blue P2 if I were you... they all share the same problem. Not only are they very spinny but they are also very FAST rubbers designed for a looping game.


The (no brand) 999
This tacky rubber seems to be a step in the right direction compared to your other thoughts, but it's still marketed primarily as a looper rubber. It definitely could be good for you, reviewers love playing close to the table with it (topspin). But perhaps you'd like some alternatives.

Donic Barracuda Big Slam
A tried and tested, non-tacky, super high spin rubber that is popular and widely used. The weapon of choice for many people who use a slow spinny loop as their signature shot. It's hard to tell how good it will be for playing heavy backspin because most people loop with this, but at least it's a small step down in speed.

Victas VS > 401
A non-tacky rubber especially designed for playing varied heavy spin! This rubber is heavy, controllable and quite slow but amazingly spinny. Some say it is THE most spinny when new but it loses a bit of spin after a couple of months. Once they got a fresh sheet users were once again amazed by it. I've played with it myself and can definitely recommend it.

Juic 999 Defence (or Juic 999 Elite Defence)
Now we're taking a bit of a dive. This tacky rubber is slow, VERY slow. But despite that it can still generate loads of spin! I think it could be a real eye-opener for you to try something this defensive. It will take some time to get used to compared to the fast rubbers you worked with but once you understand that it gives you a much bigger margin for error it can also give you much more confidence when spinning the ball from any angle.

Sidney Haubrick

Sidney Haubrick Posted 5 years ago

Dear Arjan,

I truly highly appreciate your time spent sharing your experience and opinion with me.

I guess there is only one solution to that, I will buy  - 1 Victas 401, 1 Juic 999 Defence, since 999 is 9.99 dollars on Amazon I will also buy one, and have a very different rubber for attacking as well, I used to have a very good backhand attack, and whenever I play with a very good attacker I cannot stay too much defensive and will have a second set (racket with an attack rubber):

I expect to buy them all next month only, and whenever I have got opportunity to use them, I will for sure share my experience with you all.

I decided no to try the Donic though at this time.

Thanks a lot once again.

Sidney Haubrick

Sidney Haubrick Posted 5 years ago

Hi guys,

Penhold blade recommendation please...

Now that I have decided to have two rackets, I need to buy a new blade, preferably very light, I am a penhold, as said before, I play mostly very close to the table, chopping chopping and chopping with back spin most of time and them got for a counter strike smash.

Any recommendation?? I need a light blade because one of the rubbers I will try is quite heavy already.

Thanks a lot in advance.

John Ho

John Ho Posted 5 years ago

Does tenergy 05 make it possible for the ball to bounce backwards aggressively on a backspin serve 

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

It does, but you can do that with a lot of other rubbers as well.

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