Learn the Mizutani High Toss Service

Serving

Abhi Joshi
Abhi Joshi Asked 12 years ago

Hi sir,

Jun Mizutani is my favourite player. He has a great service. Can you teach me his technique and secrets of his high toss side spin services? 


Alois Rosario
Alois Rosario Answered 12 years ago

Hi Abhi,

He has a great high toss serve.  He puts a lot of sidespin on it with a really free flowing motion. One of the keys is the toss. Getting this right is crucial to making a good high toss serve.

He really attacks the contact on the ball to get the amount of spin. This is a normal pendulum serve with the high toss thrown in for more effect and spin.


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Abhi Joshi

Abhi Joshi Posted 12 years ago

Thank You sir

 


Jeffery Liem

Jeffery Liem Posted 12 years ago

 Can you teach me his technique and secrets of his high toss side spin services?

However, can you teach us about his fake action?

you just show the basic sidespin?

 

 


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills Posted 12 years ago

Hi Jeffery,

It's really important to master the basics of the high toss serve. The first thing to work on is getting your high toss very consistent. This will give you the confidence to use the serve. Then work on generating some spin on the serve. As the ball is dropping from quite a height, you can start with a smooth action and still get good spin. After more practice you can start to swing the bat faster and generate lots of spin with a fast brusing action.

After you've hit the ball you can really move the bat around any way you like. All of these "fake" movements are used to try and confuse your opponent. I'd add these in once you are comfortable with the serve. You can mix up these fake movements on every serve. 

 

Good luck!


nate s

nate s Posted 11 years ago

My only problem with the heigh toss serve is the ball comes off my bat way to fast and doesn't hit the other side of the table. 

Is there something i can do to fix this?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago

Hi Nate,

You can shorten your swing.  You can think about it even as the ball just dropping onto your bat.  You only need to move your bat a little bit to get enough power to get it over the net.


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago

Start with what Alois has suggested. Once you can control the ball better than you can start to make your swing a bit longer but to keep the ball short, you'll then need to brush the ball more.


nate s

nate s Posted 11 years ago

Thank you very much


Dunni Oluwayemi

Dunni Oluwayemi Posted 11 years ago

is it possible to use this as a shorter serve?

 


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago

Yes it certainly is. To get the ball short you need a really fine contact.


Dunni Oluwayemi

Dunni Oluwayemi Posted 11 years ago

so doing the same thing, but with a brushing contact


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago

Yes that is right.  Give it a try and let us know how it works.


Deepak Maheshwari

Deepak Maheshwari Posted 10 years ago

hello sir,

my basic problem is there is no spin in my serve...

i am unable to hit the the racket to my body while serving means my hands cant do it. i tried it lots of times.

so that my opponent could easily send back to me or make a shot on it...

would u please help.. 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 10 years ago

Hi Deepak,

First try to get spin on the ball away from the table.  See if you can make the ball come back to you on the floor.  We have a section on this in our Serving Secrets section on Learning To Spin.


sanjeev vijayanand

sanjeev vijayanand Posted 10 years ago

I had to find find the solution after I saw the Jun Mizutani ghost serve in youtube.

But now I got it.

thanks....very nice


Sushil Agrawal

Sushil Agrawal Posted 9 years ago

Balance of tossing serve is very critical. Serve is very critical in the current format of game now. The video shows a very important technique of movement of TT bat below the ball. I will try it. Thanks.

 

 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 9 years ago

Good Sushil.  Hope it works well for you.


Ilia Minkin

Ilia Minkin Posted 9 years ago

What is the optimal angle for generating maximum backpsin on this serve? I find that with an ordinary toss bat parallel to the ground is the best, while with high toss serve flat bat produces almost no spin and tilting is better. Is that really true or I'm just doing something wrong?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 9 years ago

Hi Ilia,

With the high toss serve, let the bat be almost parallel to the ground and let the ball fall onto it.  Then move your bat forward, like you are slicing under the ball.


Rory Goulding

Rory Goulding Posted 9 years ago

I wonder if the racket  arm movement under the non-racket arm assisting in the timing of contact as well as to create the whip action.

I have been working on a high toss serve lately as well as a fast serve down the line( from a regular toss height).

One thing that I have found important for both is a slightly lower contact height, which feels like a slight hesitation.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 9 years ago

Hi Rory,

Yes hitting it from lower can help with getting the ball lower on the other side especially on the fast long serve.


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