Service rule problems

Table Tennis Serving

Last updated 12 years ago

Simon Lewis

Simon Lewis Asked 12 years ago

Recent World Championships Video

 Hi Pingskills,

This video is from the recent world team championships. It is a quarter final. The umpire originally calls a foul serve on Gardos, claiming he is not throwing the ball up high enough. After a couple of points, he then changes his serve to a high toss serve. In the second end, the Polish player, Such, is then constantly called up on his serve, with the umpire again claiming he is not throwing the ball up straight. 

Admittedly, I think Such could throw the ball more vertically, but surely this angle is acceptable? 

Look at these serves from Wang Hao. Wang doesn't throw the ball up anything like straight, yet doesn't get pulled up for it. Why not!?

Wang Hao Serving

Also, the umpire who is calling the foul serve is the umpire who is not in charge of the scoreboard. So when the player in question is serving at the top end of the table as we look at it, how can that umpire see whether the ball is thrown up straight? The server has his back to him!

The service rule is terrible, there are too many grey areas. The player should be allowed to throw the ball up at a certain angle. The angle that the ball is thrown up at should make little difference, as long as you can see the contact point as the ball is struck. 

What do you think? 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 12 years ago

Hi Simon,

You raise a really valid point.  The service rule is terrible mainly because it is very difficult to police.  It is not even the umpires problem.  The rule is too difficult to implement practically.

In the case of Such I would say that his service is acceptable.  The rule says almost vertical which is the problem.  Almost everyone that does the Reverse Pendulum serve is throwing the ball in towards themselves.  Just look at where they start with the ball toss and where they actually hit the ball from.  It can't be straight.

The issue is that you can gain a big advantage if you are throwing the ball into the bat because the ball is hitting the bat faster and so you will get more spin.

I am surre at this event the Referee would have sat the umpires down at the start of the event and said this is what we need to look for.  As a result their focus is on this one rule and you get ridiculous situations like in the Such match.

On the point yo make about the player having his back to the umpire, the umpire needs to be convinced by the player that he is trowing the ball up correctly.  It states that if the umpire has seen the same serve from the first end and it was a problem, they can call a fault when they are at the other end if they believe it is the same serve.

The service rule needs to be simpler.  Either allow everything or be really strict and say something like the ball has to be thrown vertically (not almost) and it needs to be completely in front of the whole body.  It wouldn't be popular with players to start with but it may solve issues like this.

Wang Hao's serve is clearly illegal in this example.  Hiding the serve is equally if not more important than throwing the ball in towards you.


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Simon Lewis

Simon Lewis Posted 12 years ago

But why is Wang Hao not being called up on his serve? Dare I say it, but is it because he is Wang Hao? Are umpires thinking "surely one of the best players in the world can't have an illegal serve"? Such was penalised for his serve because of his ranking, and (compared to Hao) his relative unknown stature in world table tennis. Wang Hao's serve is obviously illegal. If I can see that, then a trained umpire definitely can. So why are they not calling it!?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 12 years ago

Your guess is as good as mine.  It frustrates me too.



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