Serving short with a lot of spin

Serving

DHS Lover
DHS Lover Asked 11 years ago

Hi Pingskills, i've just try to practice my serve you said that it's better to make a short ball and also you said it need a fast brushing action to make a lot of spin. But what happen to me is the ball will be long if i make the ball short, the ball don't have a lot of spin so, what should i do to put a lot of any spin on the ball and make it short please for the answer :D thank you.


Alois Rosario
Alois Rosario Answered 11 years ago

Hi Frendy,

This is why we do need to practice this skill a lot.  This is what happens at first when we are learning.

This makes the game all that more interesting because it isn't easy to master.

Keep working on getting the fast fine brushing action.


Thoughts on this question


DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

oh i see..
ive try to brush it fast from the edge of the bat but it only move a bit for the sidespin and for the backspin, it didn't come back and it's easy to attack
is it about the rubber ? my rubber is yasaka mark V and it seems like don't have a lot of spin on it...


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago

It isn't about the rubber.  Just keep practicing the technique.


DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

I see... Thank you very much :D

DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

Anyway, with the sidespin pendulum serve, where's the contact of the ball ? Is it from the back of the ball and to the side or just to the side ?

Erriza Shalahuddin

Erriza Shalahuddin Posted 11 years ago

Hi, Frendy.

Somewhere in the website (can't recall the address), I found that the swing speed isn't all you need to produce force. Force is mass times acceleration (F = m.a). That's right, acceleration.

Once I had the same issue with you in my spin serve. I used the fast moving motion with minimal acceleration in my pendulum, and I had less spin than I expected. Then I changed my swing to a fast-accelerating-chopping motion to add heavy chop. In this way, my opponent feel the spin of my serve.

To do a short serve, focus firstly on making the ball land precisely in the center of your table. Also, try to serve from ideal height, slightly above net level.

Cheers! :D


DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

it's physics formula right ?
so it mean that Force is the ball that's spinned = mass the weight of the ball X acceleration the movement of the bat (wrist)

am I right ? If I wrong, please let me know what's the true :D thank you ^^


Erriza Shalahuddin

Erriza Shalahuddin Posted 11 years ago

http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/taxonomy/term/2341

I've just search back that article. And if my memory serve me well, this link should be the article I've mentioned before. This article talks about topspin power through acceleration, but I believe the same principle applies on serving.

F = the force of spin

m = mass of moving body on serving (a.k.a. the bat and the arm)

a = acceleration of swing

May I remind you that I'm not a physicist, so feel free to agree / disagree. v^^v


DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

I believe you because that formula is the basic (i've learn it on my second junior high school) hhmm... I know now... Thank you very much :D this is very help

DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

Anyway, i've tried what you said it has a lot of spin but it still a long ball :(

Erriza Shalahuddin

Erriza Shalahuddin Posted 11 years ago

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=6&nav=messages&webtag=ab-tabletennis&tid=33657

This link contains some very good advices on adjusting the length of your service, and it works perfectly for me.


Erriza Shalahuddin

Erriza Shalahuddin Posted 11 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NISmyRiLDCI

This is a video about doing a reverse pendulum ZJK style. Watch carefully on how he do a short / long serve.

 


DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

Too bad my phone can't catch the link from this website anyway, thank you very much and after i open that link, i'll give you news :D thank you very much

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